Christianity: The preferred religion of My Little Pony?!

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So I'm in Wal-Mart, a very ghetto Wal-Mart at that, which hardly ever gets in new MLP stock, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that they had rearranged the toy section. With high hopes that they might have a new pony or two, I go to the MLP section and am delighted to see that they have a new plush baby pony...until I take a closer look.

The pony, Bright Night is adorable to look at, but squeeze her hoof and she starts saying her bedtime prayers, and that pisses me off because its very specifically geared towards Christianity, saying 'Lord' and 'angels':

Now I lay me down to sleep;
I pray the Lord my soul to keep;
May angels watch me through the night;
Until I rise at morning light!

...or something like that. There's nothing wrong with religion or spirituality, but since when do Ponies pray to a Chrisitian god or a Jewish god- or ANY god at all?? Religion has never been thrust upon MLPs before, and I think there are many of us out there who can appreciate that, since not all of us are Christian.

I'd like to know what would happen if Ninja Turtles started kicking evil-doer *** in the name of Christ, or why don't we have He-Man hold a glowing Cross above his head instead instead of a magical sword. Ooh yeah! And there should be a special edition Strawberry Shortcake in a pink-colored habit, complete with a strawberry scented rosary! Now MLP's Bright Night is more subtle in its implications of the 'one' religion, but the message is none-the-less the same.

I mean, these are fictitious pink little ponies- since when do they worship a higher power- and what about angels? The only way this could work in the world of Ponyville/ Ponyland, etc is if the 'Lord' was the big happy sun that's always shining down on the old school MLPs and if the angels were pegasus ponies...but somehow, I don't think that's what Hasbro had in mind...

Anyway, sorry for the rant. After careful consideration, I have decided that I WILL purchase Night Bright and I will have her don WWFSMD baby clothes because the irony is just silly.

If you don't know what WWFSMD means, you should see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
 
Hi there,

What I find annoying is people always ranting about things like THIS! Hasbro is trying to teach kids what's right so they'll grow up half-decent. And if you're not Christian, that's fine. But some people here ARE. I for one don't appreciate you posting a rant like this - basically it's just an invitation for a nice, big, flame war.

Just keep it to yourself and get over it. -_-

-- Yuixe
 
Excuse me, but most children grow up to be 'half-decent' without toys that subtley tell them what religion they should be practicing. And I was Christian as a child and my family is Christian (I don't really identify with it though), so I have nothing against Christianity or ANY other religion. What I am peeved about is preaching, specifically preaching coming from an area that I never expected it.

On another note, I do apologize for posting a topic that was already discussed. I haven't been on to post in AGES, but with my irritation today, I had to see if anyone else out there felt the same way.
 
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first of, welcome to the post! i guess this is you're first post. all i'm going to say is that i'm quite offended by what you said/posted, it'll be nice if you toned it down a bit.

I just think that Hasbro can release what ever pony they like even if it's geared towards christians, i myself being one. and where did you come up with the information that most of us here are not christians? FYI Hasbro doesn't release ponies just for us collectors, they release them mainly for little children and the mass market with us collectors being only a tiny percentage of that market. and dont' you know that most Americans, Europeans, Australians and Canadians (some of the biggest markets out there) are mainly christians? why don't you go look at an encyclopedia or something and check it out.

I think it's a great idea for hasbro to release such a pony and if you don't like it then don't buy it. Just because hasbro released it doesn't mean you have to buy it. And I don't see any reason for you to be so angry that they released such a pony, the pony was created for a reason and i don't think they were thinking about you when they made her. And i don't see any point in you trying to tell everyone what you will do to that poor pony just because she say a little prayer.

oh and the pony is not preaching, she's praying!!!

anyway welcome to the post.
 
Yuixe said:
Hi there,

What I find annoying is people always ranting about things like THIS! Hasbro is trying to teach kids what's right so they'll grow up half-decent. And if you're not Christian, that's fine. But some people here ARE. I for one don't appreciate you posting a rant like this - basically it's just an invitation for a nice, big, flame war.

Just keep it to yourself and get over it. -_-

-- Yuixe
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the problem is the implication that what's "right" is to pray to a christian god, and that if they don't, they won't grow up "decent." that's EXTREMELY insulting to the people who AREN'T christian, or religious in any way. am i not a decent person because i don't pray or go to church?

it's also insulting to say that if non-christians are offended by something christian, we should "keep it to yourself and get over it." how would you feel if you wanted to express your concern about a piece of merchandise that offends your sensibilities, and you're told to "keep it to yourself and get over it"?

the fact of the matter is that hasbro has no business trying to teach kids what's "right" or not. that's the PARENTS' job. and if the parents don't want their kids to say a bedtime prayer, that's their prerogative. there is no right or wrong when it comes to religious beliefs, and people need to ACCEPT THAT.
 
That's fine, it was waaaaaay back even when I searched for Bright Night :p

And as far as this goes:

...basically it's just an invitation for a nice, big, flame war.

Just keep it to yourself and get over it. -_-
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Get over it? I don't know, maybe Starflower's not the one that needs to watch what she says...
 
Well, I agree I came off in a ****** mood. I used to be pretty active on the MLPTP as StarflowerMLP, but then life got too busy. When I post here now, I see I have been demoted to bushwoolie ::sniff sniff::...

Anyway, I dont think I said most of us here arent Christian, I may have said many of us arent, and that's true. We're still a minority, I'm sure, but many of us AREN'T Christian.

Christianity isn't bad or anything, but it has a history of forceful prostelytizing (probably spelled wrong!), and because of that, if someone starts preaching to me, my guard goes up. Just like some people's guards go up if someone says they are pagan or a witch.

Bottom line is I don't think that ANY religion fits into the pony world- not just Christianity. I mean, that opens so many floodgates in a formerly idyllic simple fantasy world. Now do ponies pray in order to lead a good life and avoid going to pony hell too? That's just silly.
 
Hi there,

By what I said I didn't mean that you have to be Christian to grow up decent. I should have worded that differently. I'm sorry. And maybe I got a little worked up by the end of my post. I'm sorry about that too.

And I don't want this to skyrocket into a flame war. So with that, I will leave this thread alone and keep MY oppinions to myself. The end.

-- Yuixe
 
diet otaku said:
the problem is the implication that what's "right" is to pray to a christian god, and that if they don't, they won't grow up "decent." that's EXTREMELY insulting to the people who AREN'T christian, or religious in any way. am i not a decent person because i don't pray or go to church?

the fact of the matter is that hasbro has no business trying to teach kids what's "right" or not. that's the PARENTS' job. and if the parents don't want their kids to say a bedtime prayer, that's their prerogative. there is no right or wrong when it comes to religious beliefs, and people need to ACCEPT THAT.
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I personally think that this pony is geared towards christians and I think most christian parents would appreciate that. Hasbro doesn't need to release every pony to be neutral/secular and every pony out there is not meant to be for every single person out there. Like i said if you don't like what this pony is saying then don't buy it.

And the pony is not preaching, she's praying. And people can interpret whatever she says in anyway, christians can interpret it as a christian prayer and nonchristians can interpret it in their own views. oh and i don't understand how this small little prayer teaches little kids what's "right." Just because this pony doll does it does that mean you have to do it too? I mean i know a lot of kids watches shows like spiderman, pokeymon and all that cartoons and i don't see them doing any of those acts that they have in them like climbing the wall, lolz.

Also don't most kids believe in angels when they're young. I mean i belived in angels when i was young and i know most kids belive it too along with monsters and especially santa clause (who by the way is a christian saint no matter how secular you want to interpret it the fact is he's a christian saint). so how come people don't attack santa claus? he's preaching christian values of giving and sharing, then how come i don't hear nonchristians trashing him?
 
but it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint to release an item geared at a limited audience... most toys are secular because you reach the most consumers that way. why cut off a portion of your market by incorporating religion?
 
Hi there,

What I find annoying is people always ranting about things like THIS! Hasbro is trying to teach kids what's right so they'll grow up half-decent. And if you're not Christian, that's fine. But some people here ARE. I for one don't appreciate you posting a rant like this - basically it's just an invitation for a nice, big, flame war.

Just keep it to yourself and get over it. -_-
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Not to flame or anything.

But you know what, it's a company it's not going to please everyone. They should leave religion out of ponies all togeather. You do not need religon to grow up decent. If you can't accept peoples opinions and thughts then don't respond.

Ponies are not by nautre a christian toy. So someone who isn't Christian taking offense to that, or finding it odd is perfectly fine. it's all great for you who are christain, well that's fine. But personaly i think Religion shuld stay away from MLP.

Again, i'm not saying this in an angry tone just expressing an opinion, please don't feel like i'm attacking you.
 
This has already been argued to death.

Hasbro did do it and nothing can change that now. If you don't like something just don't buy it.

There are people on here who love the Halloween ponies because they represent beliefs they have. No one if jumping all over that.

The SDCC giant pony looked like a little tramp some people loved it some didn't. No one jumped all over that.

Unicorns and Pegasus are mystical and magical creatures. Not exactly a Christian theme. Did the Christians get all offended and start a fight over it??? No

This is ridiculous. It is a stupid plush doll. Take the batteries out if you don't want to hear it pray. I am so sick of the fact that anyone on here can say whatever they want and do whatever they want when it comes to anything else, but if a Christian person says or does something then it is all about how they are trying to push Christian beliefs on everyone else.

My gosh. Hasbro is only doing it because lots of other companies are doing it too. If you slap Christianity on something a lot of parents, who normally wouldn't buy it, will buy it. That is the way it is. I don't necessarily agree with that tactic but it is true.

I am sick to death of this argument. I have been playing it nice and I have tried to see all sides and understand all sides, but I am getting really sick of the double standard. Hasbro isn't just catering to Christians. Buy or it or don't buy it...it is up to you.
 
I think you are taking this WAY too seriously.

I'm an atheist(sp?) I don't believe in any higher powers what so ever. But I thought that little prayer was sweet. And I do like angels even though I don't believe in them.

I know there are Care Bears as well that says bedtime prayers.
I can't find anything wrong with that, really.

If Hasbro want to make them say a prayer then so be it. I don't care. Just as long as they don't start saying totaly idiotic things or curses I'm fine with it. As long as it's a good message.

I try to live by that this world is free and that anyone and anything is allowed to worship whatever they want. If a pony says a christian prayer I'm not going to go nutz' over that. So Hasbro chose that. Fine. The ponies warships a lord and angels. Big deal. If someone can't take that then I must say they are pretty narrow minded.
If you can't accept that, then that is like saying you can't accept that Hasbro chose that religion. For the ponies or whatever...

EDIT - And I must say one bedtime prayr like that is not a subliminal(sp?) message trying to convert kids or push that religon on too them. It's just a tiny prayer.
Like cobralily said - it's not like they are shoving christian beliefs down anyones throat :roll:
That prayr won't make me all upset like it's telling me to stop being an atheist and start being a christian since that's the right thing :roll: I have a mind of my own you know...
 
yes this has been done to death and keeping it going will only incite a lot of flames. Thankfully Flying spagghetti monster has given me a flame retardant suit! :twisted:

I am a hindu and i have no problem with the prayer. It only becomes a problem for me when people try to convert me or shove thier views down my throat.
Yuixe-you are not showing a very x-ian attitude for attacking a bushwoolile. A Pm would have been better to express your feelings.
 
diet otaku said:
but it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint to release an item geared at a limited audience... most toys are secular because you reach the most consumers that way. why cut off a portion of your market by incorporating religion?
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your "limited audience" is 2 billion people. And most of those people live in the very wealthy developed countries where the money is and the business. I think from the business standpoint especially in America this is a great move.

And just note that this is only one pony that says a prayer, it's not like a huge number of ponies they released are like this. It's one pony and it will capture a market or customers out there that they don't usually get.
 
KneonT said:
I am so sick of the fact that anyone on here can say whatever they want and do whatever they want when it comes to anything else, but if a Christian person says or does something then it is all about how they are trying to push Christian beliefs on everyone else.
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i agree. it's funny how the world works.
 
I agree that it's been done to death, and I feel I've already made my stance clear in the last topic. However, I wanted to address one section of the issue:

Unicorns and Pegasus are mystical and magical creatures. Not exactly a Christian theme. Did the Christians get all offended and start a fight over it??? No
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Actually, that's not true. In early editions of the Bible the unicorn was there. It was the first animal Adam named, and it was mentioned in the story about Noah's ark. It was written that the unicorn was so strong-willing and stubborn that it refused to get onto the ark. It lived, however, by swimming through the whole storm.
 
Not trying to ofend anyone here but. I personally HATE praying and Christianity being bought into my fav toy line. I allways loved the way ponies were never religious and just had their own world. It sems to make them to real. i know that doesnt sound like it makes sense but to me it does.
 
vin21 said:
diet otaku said:
but it doesn't make sense from a business standpoint to release an item geared at a limited audience... most toys are secular because you reach the most consumers that way. why cut off a portion of your market by incorporating religion?
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your "limited audience" is 2 billion people. And most of those people live in the very wealthy developed countries where the money is and the business. I think from the business standpoint especially in America this is a great move.

And just note that this is only one pony that says a prayer, it's not like a huge number of ponies they released are like this. It's one pony and it will capture a market or customers out there that they don't usually get.
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2 billion people out of 7 billion. christians are only a portion of all people who buy MLP. and i doubt there are THAT many christians who won't buy any secular toys. it just seems to me that you appeal to the broadest base when you don't target specific things like one religion, one race, one nationality, etc.
 
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