Lickety Split in FIM!!!

Honestly we should just be thankful a pony named 'Lickety Split' exists at all after the Core 7 fiasco!

Who really cares if a different series, close to 3 decades after the original Lickety Split was released, names a pony the same as one from 3 decades ago and makes them look different? That's like complaining Moondancer and Applejack in G3 are horrible because they aren't remakes of G1. Or there's a pony named Sundance and Cupcake every gen and they don't look the same. Hasbro keeps names and changes their designs - SO WHAT? Did anyone complain about the G3 Lickety (who seems to be the symbol inspiration for this guy) being different??

The G4 pony in FiM is not meant to be G1 Lickety so getting upset they aren't the same pony is silly. There are 3 Lickety Split ponies now, each is different, if you don't like one that's fine but getting angry Hasbro reused one of their names for a pony and didn't make it the same pony is pointless.
 
Peppermint Truly said:
The symbol definitely looks more like G3's Lickety Split... I think I would be more "bleh" about the color they chose for the pony than about the gender :)
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Yeah, a disproportionate amount of boy ponies get drab colors. I don't like the way that reinforces the "some colors are for boys, some are for girls!" idea. Either more brown and dun girl ponies or less brown and dun boy ponies, please.
 
That's awesome! I think Applejack and Moondancer should/ve be boys too! I'm going to have to see the episode now!
 
How do we even know this is supposed to be Lickety Split? Maybe it's just a pony with a sundae for a cutie mark. :/
 
The point isn't about Lickety Split or any one pony in particular, the point is that they changed something someone really cared for. Hasbro may own it, but without the fans they don't really have anything at all and they need to know when they displease us.In G1 her symbol was a bunch of Ice Cream Cones and in G3 it was a Sundae, seeing as how similar they are it was a modern update, but changing gender or species can cause outrage, just ask any Rainbow Dash fan from G3 and they will make a similar point.
 
Core Seven is a prime example of the point I am trying to make. Hasbro keeps taking something we love and messing it up. I am all for change and progress, but why can't we have more consistency like with Applejack, there was nothing wrong with AJ in the first place, in G3 they messed her up, in G4 she is back to her old self. Why can't hasbro take a hint and just straighten up? Is Consistency too much to ask for? I am beginning to think so.
 
LadyM said:
Yeah, a disproportionate amount of boy ponies get drab colors. I don't like the way that reinforces the "some colors are for boys, some are for girls!" idea. Either more brown and dun girl ponies or less brown and dun boy ponies, please.
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I'm just happy for another boy character!
 
Consistency with a toy from almost twenty years ago??

Should we also be upset because there were two Baby Fireflies, two Baby Gusties, and two Windies in G1? Reusing names isn't anything new.

As far as gender goes . . . first of all, it's not the same pony as G1 Lickety so it's not really a "change." Second, Hasbro did decide newborn twin Sniffles was a boy in the UK . . . I've never met anyone who thought it was a big deal.
 
Ringlet said:
In G1 her symbol was a bunch of Ice Cream Cones and in G3 it was a Sundae, seeing as how similar they are it was a modern update,
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http://www.ponylandpress.com/images/ponies/licketysplit.jpg
http://mlp.imagesofher.com/pictures/licketysplit1.jpg
(linked for those who don't want giant images)

No offense but I am not quite seeing the similarity. There have been numerous ponies with ice cream-themed symbols - G3 Fizzy Pop is not G1 Fizzy redone. They have widely different hairs, eyes are different colors, and the body has more than a few degrees of separation in the purple family.

I am fairly positive Hasbro does not intend to do a "modern update" when they reuse the name of a pony - just that they liked the name, IE Cupcake who has appeared in every gen.

G3 Moondancer was an Earth pony, I don't think anyone has stayed mad she was a uni in G1 but maybe there was some initial anger that once again, Hasbro was only releasing Earth ponies at all LOL. The Moondancer referenced in the FiM pilot was a uni but we have never seen her - could have been Faust doing a shout-out.

Hasbro is not trying to be consistent because they are just reusing popular pony names in each generation - for the toys. Pretty sure AJ and Spike showing up as their G1 selves was Faust's influence. There may be some references (Baby LS knew Spike in the G1 cartoon, they know each other in G4) but they never changed G1 Lickety's gender - this is a pony by the same name. He doesn't exactly look like her either.
 
Good. I couldn't stand G1 Lickety Split in the movie when I was little. God that voice of hers.
 
I didn't even noticed that Lickety-Split was a boy! It flash so fast I couldn't tell! All I knew it was a brown pony.
 
Ringlet said:
The point isn't about Lickety Split or any one pony in particular, the point is that they changed something someone really cared for. Hasbro may own it, but without the fans they don't really have anything at all and they need to know when they displease us.In G1 her symbol was a bunch of Ice Cream Cones and in G3 it was a Sundae, seeing as how similar they are it was a modern update, but changing gender or species can cause outrage, just ask any Rainbow Dash fan from G3 and they will make a similar point.
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I liked RD in the G3 line. Not core seven RD or the TV version, but the original toy version when the G3's first came out. I thought she was a lovely pony. Do i care that they then made her into a pegasus for the G4's? Not a bit because it's a different gen. I also really liked G3 Fluttershy, but just because they've reused the name in the G4's doesn't mean they're the same pony or i should hate the new one. As reaper has said, ponies can have the same names.

I think you're making a huge fuss here over nothing.
 
Ringlet said:
The point isn't about Lickety Split or any one pony in particular, the point is that they changed something someone really cared for.
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You're acting like they did it just to make you mad. They didn't. By that same logic, everyone who grew up loving G1 should be ridiculously offended that ANYTHING following G1 exists, because Hasbro changed something people really cared for. But for the most part they're not.





Ringlet said:
Hasbro may own it, but without the fans they don't really have anything at all and they need to know when they displease us.
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YOU are not Hasbro's target audience. Little kids are. At the end of the day, a little kid isn't going to know that a background pony with a 10 second cameo shares a name with a G1 pony that doesn't look anything like it. Hasbro is only concerned that little kids like the show so they buy the products. Collectors are secondary to that. Acting all entitled and overdramatic isn't going to change that.


Ringlet said:
In G1 her symbol was a bunch of Ice Cream Cones and in G3 it was a Sundae, seeing as how similar they are it was a modern update, but changing gender or species can cause outrage, just ask any Rainbow Dash fan from G3 and they will make a similar point.
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But not a very good point, considering RD's still a rainbow-haired blue female, with a cloud and rainbow for a symbol. She just grew wings and an attitude.



Also Willow, YES. And now I have that awful song stuck in my head. Thanks.
 
Just popping in for a quick interjection, which hopefully won't ruffle any feathers.

"Hasbro" as a whole doesn't seem to really know much about their products (try talking to their customer support if you don't believe me :p). Sure, the toy designers themselves do, but the majority of the company seems to be made up of people who're more into the business itself than the details of the products.

Now, the crew making the tv series has at least a few MLP fans on staff. Hasbro will prod them to include a particular pony or prop to tie in with toys, but it seems that a lot of leeway is given for the writers to do what they want--and it's these people who are most likely responsible for dropping cameos and references along the way. Seems to me like they're doing stuff like this as something of an homage to the older gens they too grew up on, and as a wink to the rest of the older gen fans who might be watching. I think it's kinda cool.
 
HulkbowSMASH said:
Seems to me like they're doing stuff like this as something of an homage to the older gens they too grew up on, and as a wink to the rest of the older gen fans who might be watching. I think it's kinda cool.
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That's exactly what I thought when I heard the Moondancer reference in the first episode.
 
By the way, can someone fill me in on the Core Seven drama? I watched a bit of the show on YouTube; beyond disliking it greatly I know and feel nothing about it.
 
MyLittleLofty said:
That's exactly what I thought when I heard the Moondancer reference in the first episode.
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I also saw Lauren Faust say on her DA page that she had Moondancer as a little girl and she was one of her favorites . . . so I am thinking she personally may have stuck that in.

The Core 7 thing was that Hasbro stopped producing ANY G3s except the same seven ponies, over and over and oooover. (Then they started G3.5 and continued only making the same seven characters.) I mean, we are getting a lot of the main six ponies from the TV show right now, but at least there are SOME other ponies being sold. With Core 7, there were literally no other pony toys.
 
LadyM said:
The Core 7 thing was that Hasbro stopped producing ANY G3s except the same seven ponies, over and over and oooover. (Then they started G3.5 and continued only making the same seven characters.) I mean, we are getting a lot of the main six ponies from the TV show right now, but at least there are SOME other ponies being sold. With Core 7, there were literally no other pony toys.
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That. sucks.

Ugh.
 
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