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Even for those in A (me, I still live at home), my job doesn't make THAT much money? And I still have to save for College, etc...I still have to pay for lunch at work, my tuition, textbooks. If I spent my ENTIRE paycheck on ponies? Sure, I could buy a lot of ponies. But it would very quickly bring me down to my savings and I'd be drowning in more student loans than I already expect to drown in.
 

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I'm B. With a teensy bit of C. I had so many other large expenses come up that I got sunk in debt. Plus, an untimely bought of the manic side of bi-polar. I hate to admit it, but when I get so depressed I tend to get a little defeated. Then I'll get a little manic and think "I'm sunk so deep, what's a little more?" I have several failsafes and stops now to prevent me spending. The right meds help, too. o_O

I just got the bill for my surgery. Let's just say that it was so depressing, even my mom agreed that I should go ahead a use the $25 gift card I was given on something that I just wanted.

I'll be staying away from collecting until prices drop or if I stumble across a great deal. ;)
 

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I've read a few articles about the 'millennial spending' trends, and what seems to be frivolous spending is actually a result of a messy economy. For example, the price of housing, healthcare and child-rearing have shot up, so most millennials can't afford houses or to have kids, and a major medical bill can be crippling. But the costs of luxury items (fancy phones, huge TVs, video game systems, computers, cheap fashion) have dropped way down, so now you have a whole generation with a great phone, wardrobe and TV, but they can't buy a house. It's sad! So I'm sure we're seeing some of that reflected in the pony market - young people who can't afford a house, but their budget has room for their collections, provided that it's something like MLP and not Ferrari.

I was friends with a collector once though, she thought nothing of dropping $1-2k on ponies at a time, which blew my mind. It was kind of sad; she had a dedicated pony room, all decked out in ponies and merch and so on, but she didn't even know basic pony maintenance. She couldn't curl their hair, couldn't pop a head off to check for rust, doesn't even know how to clean them properly; but she would spend $500 on a pony worth $100 because she didn't want to wait. It felt less like collecting and more like hoarding, since it seemed like she was mostly obsessed with the online popularity her pony room garnered her. She never took pictures of them individually, just posted pictures of her 'super expensive pony room', with all of them crammed in from floor to ceiling.

If you want to collect Ferraris, you should probably know how to put gas in the car! That's how it felt, looking at her rows of ponies she overpaid for. :p
 

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I've read a few articles about the 'millennial spending' trends, and what seems to be frivolous spending is actually a result of a messy economy. For example, the price of housing, healthcare and child-rearing have shot up, so most millennials can't afford houses or to have kids, and a major medical bill can be crippling. But the costs of luxury items (fancy phones, huge TVs, video game systems, computers, cheap fashion) have dropped way down, so now you have a whole generation with a great phone, wardrobe and TV, but they can't buy a house. It's sad! So I'm sure we're seeing some of that reflected in the pony market - young people who can't afford a house, but their budget has room for their collections, provided that it's something like MLP and not Ferrari.

I was friends with a collector once though, she thought nothing of dropping $1-2k on ponies at a time, which blew my mind. It was kind of sad; she had a dedicated pony room, all decked out in ponies and merch and so on, but she didn't even know basic pony maintenance. She couldn't curl their hair, couldn't pop a head off to check for rust, doesn't even know how to clean them properly; but she would spend $500 on a pony worth $100 because she didn't want to wait. It felt less like collecting and more like hoarding, since it seemed like she was mostly obsessed with the online popularity her pony room garnered her. She never took pictures of them individually, just posted pictures of her 'super expensive pony room', with all of them crammed in from floor to ceiling.

If you want to collect Ferraris, you should probably know how to put gas in the car! That's how it felt, looking at her rows of ponies she overpaid for. :p
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I was raised quality over quantity, but I agree with your point. Getting a loan for high end items like homes is difficult because nobody wants to save enough for the down payment anymore. They can have the $600 phone, $2000 tv, $30k car, a new wardrobe every season, trendy shoes, nice computers, and every video game system, and it seems that everything is "collectable" today. The toys nib from the early '80's are going for so much that people are hoarding the newer stuff with thoughts of reselling for more. More and more people just younger than me seem to place much value on all the little things that you can hold. There's such a fine line between collecting and hoarding. I have come across so many homes that I can't even enter. My daughter's birthday invites or friend's homes. I admit to being extremely overly sensitive, but the animal, chemical, perfume, and smoke scents kill me. It's the Pacific northwest. It rains. A lot. So mold is a part of life. As well as rodents, insects, and various other fungi. Any cluttered corners or un-sanitized animal messes just hit me like a brick.
 

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Even for those in A (me, I still live at home), my job doesn't make THAT much money? And I still have to save for College, etc...I still have to pay for lunch at work, my tuition, textbooks. If I spent my ENTIRE paycheck on ponies? Sure, I could buy a lot of ponies. But it would very quickly bring me down to my savings and I'd be drowning in more student loans than I already expect to drown in.
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I'm B. With a teensy bit of C. I had so many other large expenses come up that I got sunk in debt. Plus, an untimely bought of the manic side of bi-polar. I hate to admit it, but when I get so depressed I tend to get a little defeated. Then I'll get a little manic and think "I'm sunk so deep, what's a little more?" I have several failsafes and stops now to prevent me spending. The right meds help, too. o_O

I just got the bill for my surgery. Let's just say that it was so depressing, even my mom agreed that I should go ahead a use the $25 gift card I was given on something that I just wanted.

I'll be staying away from collecting until prices drop or if I stumble across a great deal. ;)
I keep forgetting about the horrible health care situation south of the border. Also, although I do not have Bipolar disorder, I have sometimes gotten carried away spending when I'm depressed to give myself a lift. Even still, my going crazy is super tame to what others with far less money than me spend.

I'm going to disagree with you on the fine line between collecting and hoarding though. Hoarding is a mental illness, of this I have no doubt. Hoarders have traits that set them apart from collectors. I'm a recovering hoarder. I had moderately severe problem 20 years ago, but luckily, I finally came out of my fog to realize what was happening. It's still a constant battle, but my house doesn't look like a hoarder's house. I don't know if I will ever recover from the psychological side of hoarding. It's really easy to have slips.

Many people throw around the term hoarder. I've seen it used for people who are messy, lazy, collectors etc, but they are not actually hoarders. It's so tragic when people never recover. My best friend's mother who died last month was a hoarder for most of her life and it's been terrible on the family now that she has gone. The house was very unsafe and there were tunnels to walk through and rooms completely filled to the roof. I cleaned up the main floor bathroom and it took me three hours of hardcore cleaning. I found an ice cream tub full of her hair and her tooth that had fallen out. It was pretty extreme. I felt so grateful that I recognized my own hoarding at a young age and that I'm also obsessing with being clean and organized.
 
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I keep forgetting about the horrible health care situation south of the border. Also, although I do not have Bipolar disorder, I have sometimes gotten carried away spending when I'm depressed to give myself a lift. Even still, my going crazy is super tame to what others with far less money than me spend.

I'm going to disagree with you on the fine line between collecting and hoarding though. Hoarding is a mental illness, of this I have no doubt. Hoarders have traits that set them apart from collectors. I'm a recovering hoarder. I had moderately severe problem 20 years ago, but luckily, I finally came out of my fog to realize what was happening. It's still a constant battle, but my house doesn't look like a hoarder's house. I don't know if I will ever recover from the psychological side of hoarding. It's really easy to have slips.

Many people throw around the term hoarder. I've seen it used for people who are messy, lazy, collectors etc, but they are not actually hoarders. It's so tragic when people never recover. My best friend's mother who died last month was a hoarder for most of her life and it's been terrible on the family now that she has gone. The house was very unsafe and there were tunnels to walk through and rooms completely filled to the roof. I cleaned up the main floor bathroom and it took me three hours of hardcore cleaning. I found an ice cream tub full of her hair and her tooth that had fallen out. It was pretty extreme. I felt so grateful that I recognized my own hoarding at a young age and that I'm also obsessing with being clean and organized.
First off, I'm very sorry if I caused any offense. I do understand that actual hoarding is a mental condition. I've heard it can be from childhood trauma, ptsd, and any number of other triggers. The kind of hoarding I was thinking of isn't the clinical kind. It's more of just a desire for things, people who are filling their lives with stuff instead of experiences, relationships, exercise, and other healthy activities. In my personal opinion clinical hoarding is more defined by the strong attachments to items, especially items that most would consider trash or recycling. I do agree that most who are labeled as hoarders by the general public are, honestly, just messy.

That said. I've met both kinds. Some where people who just never felt like cleaning up was as important as watching tv, or, in one instance, a young adult who had been coddled. She would wear something once, then throw it in a pile. Then the pile would be used as a litter box by the cats whose actual litter box never got cleaned. She didn't feel like dealing with it, so she just bought more clothes. She had an active social life, but no job and, even sleeping for 10 hours a day, she had 6+ hours a day that she could have cleaned and knew she should. I also knew someone who, literally, bought every gadget advertised on tv even though her home was already packed and she almost never even opened the items.

My bestie's mother is a true hoarder. Most everything is stacked to the ceiling leaving little winding pathways. The stuff was old dictionaries, textbooks, newspapers, vhs tapes, clothing, and kitchen items.

Another thing that I've learned about true hoarders is that you can clean it for them. It causes mental and emotional trauma. One who is just messy and/or lazy generally don't seem to care if you go in and remove everything. I love organizing and, when able, I'm willing to help.
 

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i guess it all depends on the persons upbringing / family life / work situation.

Growing up, my family did not have much but i got ponies for b -days and xmas. i never got ponies any other way as a kid. i lived at home until i finished high school and then got a job. then i eventually found a place to live and paid all my bills like normal. any extra money went to ponies. i often buy lots of ponies locally from kijiji and i keep the best one for my collection and sell or trade the others. the money from selling ponies i used to buy ponies or to take pony vacations to pony fair.. apart from that i NEVER went on vacation even when i was with my family there was no money for that to take a family of 6 on vacation.

i know a bunch of collectors are very privileged to just in general have a higher income family, better jobs, and have had better schooling. heck even there husbands have really good jobs.... it all depends i guess.
 

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First off, I'm very sorry if I caused any offense. I do understand that actual hoarding is a mental condition. I've heard it can be from childhood trauma, ptsd, and any number of other triggers. The kind of hoarding I was thinking of isn't the clinical kind. It's more of just a desire for things, people who are filling their lives with stuff instead of experiences, relationships, exercise, and other healthy activities. In my personal opinion clinical hoarding is more defined by the strong attachments to items, especially items that most would consider trash or recycling. I do agree that most who are labeled as hoarders by the general public are, honestly, just messy.

That said. I've met both kinds. Some where people who just never felt like cleaning up was as important as watching tv, or, in one instance, a young adult who had been coddled. She would wear something once, then throw it in a pile. Then the pile would be used as a litter box by the cats whose actual litter box never got cleaned. She didn't feel like dealing with it, so she just bought more clothes. She had an active social life, but no job and, even sleeping for 10 hours a day, she had 6+ hours a day that she could have cleaned and knew she should. I also knew someone who, literally, bought every gadget advertised on tv even though her home was already packed and she almost never even opened the items.

My bestie's mother is a true hoarder. Most everything is stacked to the ceiling leaving little winding pathways. The stuff was old dictionaries, textbooks, newspapers, vhs tapes, clothing, and kitchen items.

Another thing that I've learned about true hoarders is that you can clean it for them. It causes mental and emotional trauma. One who is just messy and/or lazy generally don't seem to care if you go in and remove everything. I love organizing and, when able, I'm willing to help.
Of course you didn’t offend :)

I’m not easily offended. You just got my wheels turning. I’ve had friends who have not believed I’m a hoarder because they have not seen the way I was 20 years ago or because I’m neat and organized they assume I can’t have a problem. It’s the minimizing of the psychological issues that gets me. It really is still a struggle, all the time. I know you know this, but not everyone does.

My hoarding came from childhood trauma. We were homeless and I had to give up and leave most of my toys behind. The ones that made it are still with me. Incidentally, the ponies were the first toys I received after we had a place to live, so that explains why I have such a strong emotional attachment to them.
 
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I've read a few articles about the 'millennial spending' trends, and what seems to be frivolous spending is actually a result of a messy economy. For example, the price of housing, healthcare and child-rearing have shot up, so most millennials can't afford houses or to have kids, and a major medical bill can be crippling. But the costs of luxury items (fancy phones, huge TVs, video game systems, computers, cheap fashion) have dropped way down, so now you have a whole generation with a great phone, wardrobe and TV, but they can't buy a house. It's sad! So I'm sure we're seeing some of that reflected in the pony market - young people who can't afford a house, but their budget has room for their collections, provided that it's something like MLP and not Ferrari.

I was friends with a collector once though, she thought nothing of dropping $1-2k on ponies at a time, which blew my mind. It was kind of sad; she had a dedicated pony room, all decked out in ponies and merch and so on, but she didn't even know basic pony maintenance. She couldn't curl their hair, couldn't pop a head off to check for rust, doesn't even know how to clean them properly; but she would spend $500 on a pony worth $100 because she didn't want to wait. It felt less like collecting and more like hoarding, since it seemed like she was mostly obsessed with the online popularity her pony room garnered her. She never took pictures of them individually, just posted pictures of her 'super expensive pony room', with all of them crammed in from floor to ceiling.

If you want to collect Ferraris, you should probably know how to put gas in the car! That's how it felt, looking at her rows of ponies she overpaid for. :p
Just because someone doesn’t know how to curl a pony’s hair or pop the heads off of them, doesn’t make them less of a collector. I do not know how to do pony hair because I suck at doing hair and don’t really enjoy that. I don’t pop the heads off because I am scared to ruin them. Yet, I have a fairly extensive collection of ponies and have collected since childhood.
 

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The cynic in me wants to say a couple of those collections are probably *not* the person's who is posting them (ie stolen pics). Some people are just really lucky and find the good stuff at yard sales/Goodwill or are given people's childhood collections.
 

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I am in a different catagory because I teach English in China. I get paid what I would working 40 Hrs a week at a min wage job in NY (min wage is like 11 something there) BUT here - its almost 6 times what the locals get and everything is so so much cheaper. I can pretty much buy anything I want. Housing is part of my contract and utilities are practically nothing - except for the cell phone bill because texting isn't unlimited.

Im not a fan of living in poverty in rural NY so I'm thinking of sticking around this time.
 

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I am in a different catagory because I teach English in China. I get paid what I would working 40 Hrs a week at a min wage job in NY (min wage is like 11 something there) BUT here - its almost 6 times what the locals get and everything is so so much cheaper. I can pretty much buy anything I want. Housing is part of my contract and utilities are practically nothing - except for the cell phone bill because texting isn't unlimited.

Im not a fan of living in poverty in rural NY so I'm thinking of sticking around this time.
Hi tiki Im very happy that things are better for you in china I dont blame anyone if they wanted to stick around there in china I also would be aware of where I was living. since they censor everything there. :/
 

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I dont understand that either. I love to own Dabbles someday shes one of my grails. thats just UGH ><:::mad:
I written a message up. In regards to your post, about the scrabbles and Dabble ponies. I know they were mail order and I have both in my bin. However not paying attention I accidently sent the message to a report... Im so sorry it was meant to be a reply not report, how do I fix this.
 

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I written a message up. In regards to your post, about the scrabbles and Dabble ponies. I know they were mail order and I have both in my bin. However not paying attention I accidently sent the message to a report... Im so sorry it was meant to be a reply not report, how do I fix this.
oops im sure a mod could help you fix that. as for dabble and scribbles. I wish I could afford them at the moment but I cant. :/
 

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I am in a different catagory because I teach English in China. I get paid what I would working 40 Hrs a week at a min wage job in NY (min wage is like 11 something there) BUT here - its almost 6 times what the locals get and everything is so so much cheaper. I can pretty much buy anything I want. Housing is part of my contract and utilities are practically nothing - except for the cell phone bill because texting isn't unlimited.

Im not a fan of living in poverty in rural NY so I'm thinking of sticking around this time.
Do you find a lot of Ponies in China, or just knock offs? It must be such a fascinating experience, being immersed in another culture. You could write a book on your adventures!

(I would buy all the ponies and fakies and beads and have so much stuff I couldn't pack it all to ever go home to the states! lol)
 
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