G4 Unpopular Opinion on MLP Movie (does contain spoilers careful)

Lol is right @tulagirl @LadyMoondancer I only collect because I like the toys. I have fond memories of the old series, but that's only because they were seen through my rose colored kid glasses. I love analyzing films now. I don't watch them with many people since my ocd zeros in on every inconsistency or flaw. I also started breaking down the stories when I started having to decide which my daughter could watch. I love my parents, but they let us watch inappropriate movies and it caused some serious psychological damage, so I wanted to make sure my daughter was safe even though the situations were completely different. We went back and watched all the old cartoons and movies I could find. I think the old carebears were actually top of the list. Go figure.
I do love breaking things down and picking them apart before putting it all back together in my head again.
 
I hate watching movie with my mom she like that would not have done this or that. Or what do you think will happen. I have to say I have not seen this just watch the movie.
One thing some of these twist movie I figure out and after that it just seem too boaring to finish watching. Like the Village one of my top5 least favorite movies.

Though I was allowed to watch almost anything growing up. I did not watch anything with sex in it but at age five Jaws was my favorite movie beside Labyrinth.
 
Yeah, for me as well MLP was all about the toys growing up. Wind Whistler wasn't any more significant to me than Bouncy . . . They were both So-Softs on the Year 4 brochure and that was all I knew about them.

80s technology definitely limited the G1 show and movie, BUT . . . the thing is they are not even good animation by 80s standards. It's really evident if you compare all the 80s Sunbow cartoons (MLP, Transformers, G.I. Joe, and Jem) that MLP was the lowest priority. (Still better than Filmation's He-Man animation though, lol.) In the "Bright Lights" episode the human-sized mice helping the ponies have different designs for every segment of the show! That's not caused by 80s limitations, it's caused by lack of care. I mean, I'm not mad about it. It is what it is and I still enjoy watching MLP & Friends. I just roll my eyes when people act like MLP & Friends was the pinnacle of animation.

On the G4 movie, I was disappointed by the "funny" Storm King but I loved Tempest Shadow. Yeah, she's a very archetypical character. I don't care. She was great and she had the best song. I was really glad Twilight Sparkle didn't magically repair her horn at the end because that would have been a sort of "of course we welcome you as a friend--as long as you're NORMAL." The problem was never Tempest's horn, it was her feelings of abandonment and the bitterness that grew from it.

I thought parrot-pirates were an amazing idea. A clever twist on the usual trope of pirates owning parrot. (Which would NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPEN, because parrots are sensitive, finicky birds and would never survive on a pirate ship. The only reason people associate them with pirates is because of a fictional book, Treasure Island.) Also loved the design of the pirate captain. I didn't feel like they were out of place in a MLP world, I mean G1 had Catrina the cat-woman, and G4 has already had bipedal dog people and minotaurs. It's a fantasy world, the only thing out of place would be regular humans, lol. (Please god don't let them ever introduce regular humans.)

I thought the pacing was a little wonky but overall fine; the movie moved at a brisk pace. I did regret that they didn't expand certain parts, though, like more time with the sea ponies. I am certain a lot was cut out, because there's a hippogriff toy who doesn't even appear in the movie as a named character. They also threw around the idea of showing where the Storm King had gotten his staff, and the plan was that he tricked or stole it from an aging Scorpan. I wish they'd animated that, that would have been amazing.
 
Oh @Tak I have OCD maybe that is why I am compelled to do this when I watch shows lol. Once my mind starts going and my imagination start flying it is like a computer on steroids. R2 made the mistake last night of asking me what my dream vacation would look like. I went nuts with that down to the very detail. I think I came up for air about an hour later and asked him finally what he thought. Basically, he was like wow I want to live there. LOL We are well paired he is quiet and laid back and I am hyper minded and opinionated. He enjoys finding flaws in film though and we always shout out during a movie, "Oh did you notice that..." If either of us missed it we will rewind and watch it again. I guess we are weird. I always told you guys this fact ROFLOL.

@LadyMoondancer Oh goodness that is very good about the pirate parrots. Thank you for that. I never made that connection and now I see that in a different way. Great point. You have me wanting to watch all the G1 cartoons and the movies and then decide how I feel about them. I like Jem back in the day. I never watched MLP except when I would babysit the little kids. It is not my generation cartoon, but I found Jem to be good. I have watched a few of the G1 episodes as I have them on dvd given to me by a friend. Now I am curious. Oh and I really like what you said about Tempest and her horn and the reason they didn't fix it. Fantastic. I like that. Never thought of that either. That is why I started this thread. I wanted to get just this very type of response. It helps me see that character differently. You are absolutely right about the fact it is a fantasy world. Have to try not to humanize it. I have never really thought about people being added to MLP.

I also want to watch the G1 transformers series. I am very curious about it since R2 is a total Transformers fan. Do they have the entire show on DVD I wonder?

I agree that the song they came up for Tempest was pretty good. I bet we all can identify with the words of that song during some part of our lives. I know I can.

@Ology Runs screaming I absolutely can't stand Jaws. It scared me so bad as a child I developed a phobia of sharks and now I can't deal with them, movies with them or even standing in the ocean without being able to see my legs. It messed me up. I was like a small child when my mother's friend's children took me to the theater to see that. Let me tell you I ran out of the theater crying and hyperventilating and my poor friend had to sit in the lobby with me and try to calm me down. They were three years older than me. Her brother had to find another movie for us to go watch. So we went into another movie and he would run into our theater and tell me every ten minutes or so how close they were to killing the shark and when he finally told me they did I cried and said, "I am so glad he is gone." LOL I was not able to separate a film at that age from reality. I will never forget that and we all talk about it to this day. They felt so responsible for caring for me because I was little. They were really sad that I got so scared and I have to say they went out of their way to help me through it.
 
I hate watching movie with my mom she like that would not have done this or that. Or what do you think will happen. I have to say I have not seen this just watch the movie.
One thing some of these twist movie I figure out and after that it just seem too boaring to finish watching. Like the Village one of my top5 least favorite movies.

Though I was allowed to watch almost anything growing up. I did not watch anything with sex in it but at age five Jaws was my favorite movie beside Labyrinth.

Evelyn handles horror better than I do. It all used to give me nightmares. Now some are just so ridiculous that I laugh. No clowns, though, ever. Evelyn's grasped the concept that it wasn't real since she was four. We both still don't pick horror first. We steer towards factual. Science, animals, history, and documentaries. Otherwise generally cartoons or non-sexual anime.
 
@tulagirl haha I was the opposite the day I watch Jaws was on TV and it the day my mom said she gave up on me and watching movies. I watch the shark eat people and all that then when they shot him I busted out crying. My mom is like its just a movie there is no giant shark thinking I was upset about a giant shark eating me. NOPE I look at her and shad "THEY KILLED THE POOR SHARK". Mom just shook her head and walked away. I remember having to be to be told it was not a real shark so I would stop crying. I did not get movie magic and though they killed a shark. I kinda love sharks so yeah. The movie CHILDS Play scared me a bit I was terrified of my Kids sister doll anyway Iono she was creepy and that is coming from ME.
Later they became some of my favorite movies minus a few that are boring so boring.
Horror has always been fine with me I watch Nightmare on Elm Street and the Jason movies from age 7 on so it never bothered me. They were movies nothing more but I did enjoy them and freaking my sister out to keep her away from me or my room and toys was good.
 
@tulagirl Jem is awesome, great characters and usually pretty realistic situations. (USUALLY . . . they do have some where they're like "Oh, we're time travelling!", lol.) It was aimed at a slightly older audience than the other Sunbow shows and was meant to ride the wave of rock-band-crazy pre-teens who loved MTV.

G1 Transformers is action-packed and fun, but less complex / nuanced than Jem. Lots of animation errors, but on the whole they did a pretty good job considering they were dealing with sooo many robot characters, each of which had a very complex character model.

@Ology I've heard of a lot of kids being scared to play with their My Buddy dolls after Child's Play came out, because Chucky is very obviously based on My Buddy (same clothes and everything.) To be honest, it makes me dislike the movie. :/ It's just mean taking a toy aimed at preschool kids and making it the subject of a horror movie. (It's also a pretty dumb movie concept IMO, lol.)

I was easily scared by movies as a kid, I could never have watched Jaws.
 
@LadyMoondancer actually Chuck was base off the haunted doll Robert who is in Florida. The my Buddy doll just happen to look like him. Its one of those Universal mysteries that happed at the same time. I just did not like my Kid sister doll at all no from the movie just cause. I collect dolls and Haunted one too so saying she creeped me out is saying something big with me.

I wanted Jaws as a pet I am just strange I guess lol.
 
I have no idea why Princess Ponies can't do squat for their land? They are pretty old. Maybe they've decided to train a couple of replacements and enjoy their semi-retirement?

Twilight Sparkle dun screwed up. Granted, we've all done dumb things we normally wouldn't do and weren't proud of. Especially out of stress and desperation. But I certainly wouldn't do it in the depths of the ocean.

In all fairness, we never did get a proper tour of Flutter Valley in the original MLP movie. There was too much crammed into this.

Queen Novo wanted to protect her people. Her instincts weren't wrong in this case.

There are lots of goofy villains in all kindsa kids shows. Truly threatening, complex, frightening villains aren't quite that common. A lot of villains are still pretty simple.

No one is ever gonna accuse Beastly and Shrieky from Care Bears of being threatening or frightening for example. Beastly is a bumbling over-achiever, hampered by clumsiness and lack of power. But he put himself out there more then No-Heart did. Shrieky was held back by being a spoiled, demanding little brat.

Contrast that to Fire Lord Sozen and Princess Azula, who committed genocide, war crimes and slavery. Both were more then happy to harm or kill their own relatives to secure their place on the throne. They're both cruel, complex, controlling and incredibly cunning characters.

I miss the days when pop culture wasn't forced into kid's shows ad naseum. Some is fine, but not all the time. Plus MLP n Friends does have Knight Shade. Lol.

The songs were blah. But it's my unpopular opinion that MLP has a long history of so-so songs sprinkled in with some good ones and some bad.
 
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Baaaaa for some reason your post about villains took me back to Sigmund and the Sea Monsters. When I was a kid the mean guys scared me to death LOL. I guess when you are a kid a stupid villain can be scary anyway. Thanks for your post!!
 
@Leave a Whisper

Baaaaa for some reason your post about villains took me back to Sigmund and the Sea Monsters. When I was a kid the mean guys scared me to death LOL. I guess when you are a kid a stupid villain can be scary anyway. Thanks for your post!!


I had to look that up. Lol
 
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Ha ha yea I know. I knew no one would probably know what I was talking about since that was my era and I am getting old these days. Baaaaaa My poor step father came over once when R2 was watching an episode and he was like "what the world are you watching." ROFLOL it was pretty weird even in its day. It's amazing how bad it was yet it brought back fondest of memories for R2. I actually didn't like it as much. I was a Land of the Lost kid.

 
@tulagirl Great googly-moogly! :shock:Those costumes!

That redhead kid looks awfully familiar.o_O

OMGS the GI Joe commercial is hilarious! :lolpony:
 
@tulagirl Great googly-moogly! :shock:Those costumes!

That redhead kid looks awfully familiar.o_O

OMGS the GI Joe commercial is hilarious! :lolpony:

Yeah I thought I was just showing you an introduction theme song. I had no idea it was a whole episode that contained vintage toy commercials. I love those vintage toy commercials. GI Joe was so awesome back in the day. But yeah I don't know those characters are pretty crazy with those big googly eyes it's like BBE on steroids. I guess it goes to show you that children's programming can be very strange sometimes.
 
I thought the movie was Meh, personally. It had some good parts, but I did not like it as much as I did the Equestria Girls movie, which I honestly did not expect to like.

I liked the way they did the ponies eyes and ears in the movie, as well as the backgrounds (MUCH more detail), but their mouths were even more weird than normal.

All the characters, as others have mentioned, were OOC. Pinkie Pie was way TOO Pinkie Pie and why the blazes was Twilight just standing around while the Storm King was destroying things? She might not have had any magic at that point, but she could have tried to do SOMETHING. If they were the normal writers of the series, I imagine she would have (I hope).

Tempest Shadow was my favorite part, although I very rarely like villains. I LOVED 'Open Up Your Eyes'. I also like that they left her horn broken and that she could still do magic with it. I hope Tempest shows up in the regular cartoon.

I liked Capper. It would be cool to see more humanoid felines on the show. I thought his epiphany was a bit unrealistic since all Rarity did was fix his clothes a little, but yeah, kids show.

The Storm King was a weak villain. I know it's a kid show, but it's possible to have more. . .villainous villains without them being too harsh or too 'bad' for kids. Grubber (I think his name is) could have been taken out entirely in IMHO. I mean, Tirek was pretty bad and an interesting villain. I'm not saying he should have been in the movie, but that's an example of a much better villain.
 
Ha ha yea I know. I knew no one would probably know what I was talking about since that was my era and I am getting old these days. Baaaaaa My poor step father came over once when R2 was watching an episode and he was like "what the world are you watching." ROFLOL it was pretty weird even in its day. It's amazing how bad it was yet it brought back fondest of memories for R2. I actually didn't like it as much. I was a Land of the Lost kid.

I am going to have strange nightmareish dream now....
 
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